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Post by valleysports on Aug 4, 2008 14:35:38 GMT -6
Because there are not many coaches in college running a Slot T offense, many have gone to a more Pro Set or Four Wide offense....
Our kids down here have a tough enough time getting looked at much less having coaches make a educated evaluation on a kid based on what they think he would do in one of those offenses instead of seeing him in it all the time for evaluation purposes...
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Post by Newbs Light on Aug 4, 2008 14:40:41 GMT -6
I don't see the difference. Sick numbers are sick numbers regardless or the scheme.
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Post by valleysports on Aug 4, 2008 14:45:23 GMT -6
I don't see the difference. Sick numbers are sick numbers regardless or the scheme. If that were truly the case Mishak would have been at a top tier Div 1 school instead of Texas State. Its not all about numbers, they weigh numbers with physical charecteristics as well. Mishak had great numbers and big heart but it was not enough to overcome being 5'6" and 160. As a QB 5'10" and 160, it will be tough to overcome as well regardless of his numbers or his heart...(and the kids has both) running a wide open offense would at least afford them the opportunity of seeing him in that environment....
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Post by Newbs Light on Aug 4, 2008 14:51:21 GMT -6
Bleh, I'm not gonna get into it with you over Mishak. I don't see Dylan as being too short. I mean Reesing for Kansas is LUCKY if he's 5'10 and he won the Orange Bowl. Weight's not a problem, they can easily get him to 180-190 if he's not already close to that.
My point is it'd be EASIER for him to get the stats out of the spread so if he could get them out of that goofy arsed offense they run over there wouldn't it just be a plus for him with the scouts?
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Post by RPM on Aug 4, 2008 14:56:32 GMT -6
not exactly easier could go both ways..but i see what your saying Newbs....
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Post by morristhecat on Aug 4, 2008 15:06:19 GMT -6
The big 12 school taking an interest has a QB right at 5'10".
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Post by Newbs Light on Aug 4, 2008 15:22:29 GMT -6
LOL, i seriously don't understand why you folks from Weslaco are so cryptic about what schools are interested in your kids. Some of the people on this forum could probably help. For crying out loud, TF posted as much about mishak as he did about any of LF's kids last year on recruiting and fan sites.
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Post by RPM on Aug 4, 2008 15:44:03 GMT -6
its cause were all out to get the panther program......
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Post by morristhecat on Aug 4, 2008 15:51:36 GMT -6
Actually, noone had asked.
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Post by Newbs Light on Aug 4, 2008 16:06:00 GMT -6
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Post by Newbs Light on Aug 4, 2008 16:07:00 GMT -6
lol, just realized you started the thread. ;D
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Post by xlobo on Aug 4, 2008 18:14:31 GMT -6
Im just saying I didnt say he was going to be the only panther to be stopped. I am aware of all the talent Weslaco has but Dylan will be running the ship this season. Sorry if I came on offensive but I wasnt .......... Dylan will be the man to stop for the Panthers next year... you didn't say what lobo? I said Dylan will be the man to stop but not the only one...
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Post by Midvalleyftball79 on Aug 4, 2008 20:14:14 GMT -6
Actually you never said, he wouldn't be the only one xlobo. I mentioned that. lol just giving you a hard time man.
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Post by xlobo on Aug 5, 2008 13:52:00 GMT -6
I know I just put that but you read it wrong....I DIDNT say from "but.....one"
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Post by son of corb on Aug 5, 2008 23:41:26 GMT -6
The slot isn't looked upon too highly by college coaches when they are looking at QB's. Usually they are looking at QB's with passing numbers in addition to good decision making skills. I think that's what valleysports was saying.
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Post by wp2003 on Aug 6, 2008 9:01:29 GMT -6
you have to realize that passing out of the slot-t is going to require some good play fakes. even though the majority of the passing games these days use a straight-forward shotgun set where you know there's gonna be a pass 95% of the time, the play action game is still used by a lot of teams, especially in college. any qb coming out of a system like this is going to be a magician with the football. if he has a good season, dylan will have plenty of people calling for him.
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Post by valleysports on Aug 6, 2008 9:46:44 GMT -6
I am by no means dissing the kid at all...
All I am saying is I think he would have more looks if the Panthers ran an offense that illustarted his skills better..
They don't want a kid who can run a fake, they want to see a kid throw, and in an offense that will probably run 70% of the time, I think the kid would be better served throwing 70% of the time to illustrate his skill sets.....
thats it, thats all I meant to say.....
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Post by wp2003 on Aug 6, 2008 10:00:56 GMT -6
i'm sorry but since when do qb's only throw the ball? if peyton manning or tom brady couldn't fake as well as they can, they wouldn't be at the level they're at.....arm strength and accuracy is a big part of the game, but sometimes you gotta throw some fakes to get the guys off of you. in many passing schemes, ESPECIALLY the spread, the play fake comes into play a lot.
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Post by valleysports on Aug 6, 2008 10:13:05 GMT -6
They can teach you a play fake, but they want to see accuracy and arm strength and athletic ability and handing off the ball 70% of time does not allow them to see what they want
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Post by wp2003 on Aug 6, 2008 10:20:01 GMT -6
the play fake is very difficult to learn. it's not something that comes from one day to the next, or one year to the next. it takes to time to develop consistency in your fake. i would compare it to learning how to throw with a good motion. most coaches want to work with a qb on his motion for about a year. that's how long it takes for any qb to get it right. after that accuracy comes easily. "arm strength" sometimes comes from improving a qb's mechanics. throwing the football is a full body procedure, it doesn't only come from the shoulder down. hips, feet placement, body lean, all come into play when throwing for distance. any qb who has been throwing for awhile is going to have a strong arm, and i can say that weslaco qb's throw a whole lot in the offseason and during the season. let me put it this way, if the defender who the qb tried to fake kills the qb because the fake sucked, the arm strength and accuracy aren't gonna be shown are they? the fake is just as important, if not more so, than the accuracy.
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