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Post by RGVF Moderator on Jul 13, 2008 19:09:23 GMT -6
God will intervene and keep this thread clean!  Reminds me of this anectdote: A Marine was just released from active duty and newly registered in a class taught by an avowed Atheist. The teacher shocked several of his students when he flatly stated he was going to prove there was no God. Addressing the ceiling he shouted: “God, if you are real, then I want you to knock me off this platform. I’ll give you 15 minutes!” The lecture room fell silent. You could have heard a pin fall. Ten minutes went by. Again he taunted God, saying, “Here I am, God. I’m still waiting.” His count-down got down to the last couple of minutes when the Marine walked up to the professor, hit him full force in the face, and sent him tumbling from his lofty platform, knocking him out cold. At first, the students were shocked and babbled in confusion. The young Marine took a seat in the front row and sat silent. The class fell silent…waiting. Eventually, the professor came to, shaken. He looked at the young Marine in the front row. When the professor regained his senses and could speak he asked: “What’s the matter with you? Why did you do that?” “God was busy. He sent me.” |
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Post by amnova on Jul 13, 2008 19:10:36 GMT -6
lol, i didn't say it wasn't depressing...the thought of eternal sleep is very depressing. I was asking if this was your main motivation for believing in a higher power. my motivation was my parents. that's how they raised us. and I do like the thought of an afterlife. IMO, this is the sole reason why religion is still a part of this world...religion can not stand on its two feet by it self. You can brainwash children into thinking anything, if you really felt like it, and if you were to create a place that enforces this believe once or twice every week, the child will continue to think what you have taught him for the rest of his life. |
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Post by Ol' Buzzard on Jul 13, 2008 19:20:44 GMT -6
IMO, Religion serves two major purposes:
1) Establish a system meaning/purpose to life -- keep people driving forward.
2) Eatablish a system of discipline -- Keep people in line.
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Post by panthercrazy on Jul 13, 2008 19:28:37 GMT -6
God will intervene and keep this thread clean! Reminds me of this anectdote: A Marine was just released from active duty and newly registered in a class taught by an avowed Atheist. The teacher shocked several of his students when he flatly stated he was going to prove there was no God. Addressing the ceiling he shouted: “God, if you are real, then I want you to knock me off this platform. I’ll give you 15 minutes!” The lecture room fell silent. You could have heard a pin fall. Ten minutes went by. Again he taunted God, saying, “Here I am, God. I’m still waiting.” His count-down got down to the last couple of minutes when the Marine walked up to the professor, hit him full force in the face, and sent him tumbling from his lofty platform, knocking him out cold. At first, the students were shocked and babbled in confusion. The young Marine took a seat in the front row and sat silent. The class fell silent…waiting. Eventually, the professor came to, shaken. He looked at the young Marine in the front row. When the professor regained his senses and could speak he asked: “What’s the matter with you? Why did you do that?” “God was busy. He sent me.” haha That was Funny!! Is it real?? |
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Post by panthercrazy on Jul 13, 2008 19:29:31 GMT -6
IMO, Religion serves two major purposes: 1) Establish a system meaning/purpose to life -- keep people driving forward. 2) Eatablish a system of discipline -- Keep people in line. Thats very True, Buzzy! |
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Post by RGVF Moderator on Jul 13, 2008 19:29:53 GMT -6
my motivation was my parents. that's how they raised us. and I do like the thought of an afterlife. IMO, this is the sole reason why religion is still a part of this world...religion can not stand on its two feet by it self. You can brainwash children into thinking anything, if you really felt like it, and if you were to create a place that enforces this believe once or twice every week, the child will continue to think what you have taught him for the rest of his life. The same can be said about education. My parents guided me in my religious upbringing, and when I spread my wings, I walked away from religion, but as a grown man, have found God again. All on my own, I went back, and now that I can understand His message, I will never stray again. Remember that while you may not accept Him, He will always accept you. |
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Post by amnova on Jul 13, 2008 19:31:29 GMT -6
IMO, this is the sole reason why religion is still a part of this world...religion can not stand on its two feet by it self. You can brainwash children into thinking anything, if you really felt like it, and if you were to create a place that enforces this believe once or twice every week, the child will continue to think what you have taught him for the rest of his life. The same can be said about education. Very good point... |
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Post by panthercrazy on Jul 13, 2008 19:34:39 GMT -6
IMO, this is the sole reason why religion is still a part of this world...religion can not stand on its two feet by it self. You can brainwash children into thinking anything, if you really felt like it, and if you were to create a place that enforces this believe once or twice every week, the child will continue to think what you have taught him for the rest of his life. The same can be said about education. My parents guided me in my religious upbringing, and when I spread my wings, I walked away from religion, but as a grown man, have found God again. All on my own, I went back, and now that I can understand His message, I will never stray again. Remember that while you may not accept Him, He will always accept you. Id except him now because you don't know when you going to die and you won't be able to crossover to the afterlife. You will be full of Sin. Also I have a Question about why we Baptize baby's in the Catholic church, They just came into this world how can they be full of sin? |
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Post by panthercrazy on Jul 13, 2008 19:37:16 GMT -6
The same can be said about education. Very good point... Dood if you want answers go to church. Just Ask. Someone will Guide you. |
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Post by RGVF Moderator on Jul 13, 2008 19:40:57 GMT -6
The same can be said about education. My parents guided me in my religious upbringing, and when I spread my wings, I walked away from religion, but as a grown man, have found God again. All on my own, I went back, and now that I can understand His message, I will never stray again. Remember that while you may not accept Him, He will always accept you. Id except him now because you don't know when you going to die and you won't be able to crossover to the afterlife. You will be full of Sin. Also I have a Question about why we Baptize baby's in the Catholic church, They just came into this world how can they be full of sin? It's original sin...We are not perfect beings as God intended because of Adam and Eve's transgression in the Garden of Eden. |
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Post by amnova on Jul 13, 2008 19:44:42 GMT -6
The same can be said about education. My parents guided me in my religious upbringing, and when I spread my wings, I walked away from religion, but as a grown man, have found God again. All on my own, I went back, and now that I can understand His message, I will never stray again. Remember that while you may not accept Him, He will always accept you. Also I have a Question about why we Baptize baby's in the Catholic church, They just came into this world how can they be full of sin? Because we were born from sin.... |
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Post by panthercrazy on Jul 13, 2008 19:49:13 GMT -6
Id except him now because you don't know when you going to die and you won't be able to crossover to the afterlife. You will be full of Sin. Also I have a Question about why we Baptize baby's in the Catholic church, They just came into this world how can they be full of sin? It's original sin...We are not perfect beings as God intended because of Adam and Eve's transgression in the Garden of Eden. How do consider an Infant having any sins, If it doent even know anything about Sins? The world is in sin not the human, and God died for our sin so how do we enter the world in sin? Just Wondering? |
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Post by amnova on Jul 13, 2008 19:53:16 GMT -6
Also I have a Question about why we Baptize baby's in the Catholic church, They just came into this world how can they be full of sin? |
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Post by RGVF Moderator on Jul 13, 2008 19:54:23 GMT -6
It's original sin...We are not perfect beings as God intended because of Adam and Eve's transgression in the Garden of Eden. How do consider an Infant having any sins, If it doent even know anything about Sins? The world is in sin not the human, and God died for our sin so how do we enter the world in sin? Just Wondering? Quick Google search: |
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Post by panthercrazy on Jul 13, 2008 20:02:43 GMT -6
How do consider an Infant having any sins, If it doent even know anything about Sins? The world is in sin not the human, and God died for our sin so how do we enter the world in sin? Just Wondering? Quick Google search: When you come into this world, you dont know what a sin is because you do not come in into this world sinning, but god died on the Cross for our sins, Now later on when you sin now then you confess your sins? Im very confused, I often try to Mix both Belief's but then I hit a Roadblock? I come from families that are Christian and Catholic, so Im wondering this/ |
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Post by amnova on Jul 13, 2008 20:04:33 GMT -6
Psalm 51:5, "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin my mother conceived me."
The Bible teaches original sin, that the corruption and guilt of Adam's sin is passed on to every human being at conception. |
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Post by panthercrazy on Jul 13, 2008 20:09:23 GMT -6
Hold up, Im reading up on that
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Post by panthercrazy on Jul 13, 2008 20:15:10 GMT -6
Okay Finally Im Convinced, Finally
So now how about...
Why do us Catholics confess to the Priest instead of going directly to god?
Another Roadblock
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Post by amnova on Jul 13, 2008 20:17:16 GMT -6
Okay Finally Im Convinced, Finally So now how about... Why do us Catholics confess to the Priest instead of going directly to god? Another Roadblock yeah, i think that's really stupid, from what i understand, these obviously shouldn't be going on. |
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Post by RGVF Moderator on Jul 13, 2008 20:30:22 GMT -6
No Catholic believes that a priest simply as an individual man, however pious or learned, has power to forgive sins. This power belongs to God alone; but He can and does exercise it through the ministration of men. Since He has seen fit to exercise it by means of this sacrament, it cannot be said that the Church or the priest interferes between the soul and God; on the contrary, penance is the removal of the one obstacle that keeps the soul away from God. |
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