OlympFan
Heisman Winner
Dream the Impossible
Posts: 525
|
Post by OlympFan on Aug 7, 2008 1:35:47 GMT -6
Just remembered an important line said by the main character Gene's "friend" Finny in the novel A Separate Peace:
You always win at sports.
Agree? Disagree? Have a philosophical explanation?
Gene in the story says something to himself something like, "Like a lot of beliefs and commandments of Finny, this couldn't be true, but I couldn't bring myself to tell him." It's kind of a hero-worship love-hate relationship thing...
But regardless of the story, does the line itself stand to mean something?
|
|
|
|
Post by hunterbunter on Aug 7, 2008 1:49:49 GMT -6
...unless of course, you lose?
|
|
|
|
Post by Redfish on Aug 7, 2008 6:57:08 GMT -6
is a tie considered losing or winning?
|
|
xlobo
Legend
Lopez Lobos
Posts: 5,435
|
Post by xlobo on Aug 7, 2008 7:43:06 GMT -6
I'd say thats losing....
|
|
wp2003
Hall of Famer
Posts: 4,979
|
Post by wp2003 on Aug 7, 2008 8:57:03 GMT -6
"winning and losing, it's all the same except for the way people look at you afterwards" line from a movie, i don't remember which one though
|
|
|
|
Post by Ol' Buzzard on Aug 7, 2008 11:25:52 GMT -6
"You win some and you lose some... but you LIVE!"
|
|
Lemon_Fresh
MVP
Once a Bobcat, Always a Bobcat
Posts: 359
|
Post by Lemon_Fresh on Aug 7, 2008 12:19:47 GMT -6
but you feel like crap when you lose.
When you win, you are on top of the world
|
|
JRG
Heisman Winner
Posts: 533
|
Post by JRG on Aug 7, 2008 12:52:46 GMT -6
"You win some and you lose some... but you LIVE!" Live.....to fight another day! |
|
|
|
Post by hunterbunter on Aug 7, 2008 14:46:31 GMT -6
is a tie considered losing or winning? that's like seeing your 80 yr old grandma in a two piece. there are no winners. |
|
|
|
Post by Ol' Buzzard on Aug 7, 2008 19:08:37 GMT -6
"You win some and you lose some... but you LIVE!" Live.....to fight another day! I believe it is from FRIDAY (the movie). |
|
|
|
Post by arlenerocks on Aug 7, 2008 19:12:42 GMT -6
in loseing you win the knowlege to be better next time. too bad somepeople just suck.
|
|
|
|
Post by son of corb on Aug 7, 2008 19:24:04 GMT -6
I think it's pretty definite in Russian Roulette.
|
|
OlympFan
Heisman Winner
Dream the Impossible
Posts: 525
|
Post by OlympFan on Aug 7, 2008 22:28:43 GMT -6
...unless of course, you lose? Actually, that was Gene's inner dialogue in A Separate Peace: If you win, someone else loses, so how can you always win at sports? |
|
|
|
Post by MANIMAL on Aug 7, 2008 23:05:37 GMT -6
...unless of course, you lose? not really.........i mean if you LOSE you still try harder to improve youself which at the end is winning |
|
|
|
Post by son of corb on Aug 7, 2008 23:13:17 GMT -6
I think if you compete, and I mean really try to compete, you win in some way. The real losers are those who have never competed. Did that make sense?
|
|
OlympFan
Heisman Winner
Dream the Impossible
Posts: 525
|
Post by OlympFan on Aug 7, 2008 23:25:49 GMT -6
Yes, makes sense...
|
|
OlympFan
Heisman Winner
Dream the Impossible
Posts: 525
|
Post by OlympFan on Aug 8, 2008 0:05:49 GMT -6
Raj Bhavsar — US Men's Gymnastics — I (& most) thought he'd done all to be on the 2004 Olympic team, but was not picked, passed over for another returning to the team from previous Olympics.
For 2008 we got a repeat — he did great at trials and other meets, but was left an alternate again... Now after the top contender (Paul Hamm) and then even the twin brother have left the team with injuries, Raj is finally on the team as of 10 days ago...
But even if he hadn't made it, he'd already won — watch the video...
|
|
|
|
Post by hunterbunter on Aug 8, 2008 0:57:12 GMT -6
i see what you guys are trying to say, like a feel good story. But lets take for example oh i dont know...High School Football. What happens when you play for a school who's team is not that good. You end up all 4 years not winning district nor making the playoffs. You lose, and then you graduate. You can never play highschool football again. Theres no winning in that situation.
|
|
wp2003
Hall of Famer
Posts: 4,979
|
Post by wp2003 on Aug 8, 2008 5:24:05 GMT -6
life lessons hunter........how to accept a loss and move on from it.....(something some of us never learned ;D). teamwork, how to get motivated and stay there, hard work, dedication. lessons you otherwise might not have learned had you not been in that situation. i think that's where the "in sports you always win" comes from
|
|
OlympFan
Heisman Winner
Dream the Impossible
Posts: 525
|
Post by OlympFan on Aug 8, 2008 13:11:22 GMT -6
If you let me play...
|
|
