lmka
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Post by lmka on Jul 18, 2008 18:42:39 GMT -6
man if EE had won it would've already been to 100 pages over there......i guess it's only time to get over it when EE loses huh? Or if Weslaco would of showed up. |
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Post by wp2003 on Jul 18, 2008 18:45:33 GMT -6
probably right...... but i'm still there, where are you?
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Post by son of corb on Jul 18, 2008 18:56:41 GMT -6
The point in his video that really makes this hit home, is when he says we use 25% of the oil, but only have 4% of the population. We all need to change our ways somehow. What is the optimum level? I've heard these comments before and I'm not a big fan of wealth redistribution. As long as we are talking about free market solutions, I'm ok with it. T. Boone's wind farm solutions are a good example. His campaign is both good for us and him. |
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Post by wp2003 on Jul 18, 2008 19:09:18 GMT -6
there are still a couple of things to consider when we're talking about something like this, and one is efficiency. how efficient are these new techniques gonna be? is natural gas more or less efficient than gasoline is? also, i'm a big fan of wind energy, but how much area can we devote to wind farms across the nation? who would own them. would the gov. allow ownership by the towns that contain these wind farms, would it be a gov operation, or would they only give out contracts to existing energy suppliers? what about hydroelectric? or nuclear..would we eventually lean towards nuclear (i think it's a bad idea) or stick with the clean renewables? this is one of the better plans that i've heard but it still sounds a little out there simply because it requires everyone to follow.....
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Post by son of corb on Jul 18, 2008 19:24:22 GMT -6
Can't answer all of that but I know Texas just approved $4.83 billion for the infrastructure to connect wind farms in the pan handle to the electricity grid. The ownership needs to stay in private hands or else you end up with another PEMEX. On the natural gas side, it's a byproduct in many cases and is often just burned off. Every bus in every city should be running off of it. Hydroelectric? You couldn't build a dam in this country with all the money in the world. Remember the fuss by the bird people and environmentalists over the wind farm in the King ranch? Here's a recent link on that silliness. www.wind-watch.org/news/2008/06/15/wind-farm-project-moving-forward-despite-opposition/Nuclear faces even tougher relation obstacles (even though the French can get 80% of their demands with it ?!?!?!) |
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Post by willthebuilder on Jul 18, 2008 19:29:49 GMT -6
do we import oil from Mexico?
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Post by wp2003 on Jul 18, 2008 19:31:08 GMT -6
i remember the king ranch issue. it pissed me off to hear all these damn tree huggers protesting....they'd rather use oil based energy systems that'll eventually polute the planet to the point that all wildlife will begin to die. man they're so smart  . it's good to hear that we're actually doing something about getting the wind farms connect to the grid. you put up 2 or 3 big wind farms and you could power the whole damn state....it just doesn't make sense to me how we can't see that it's better to use the wind and water......as far as nuclear, the only thing i'm worried about is the waste...how do the french deal with the waste from their nuclear plants? |
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Post by wp2003 on Jul 18, 2008 19:33:22 GMT -6
do we import oil from Mexico? i think he was talking about PEMEX being owned by the mexican gov. |
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Post by willthebuilder on Jul 18, 2008 19:37:47 GMT -6
na im just asking because would it make more sense to buy oil from a source closer to us than from the other side of the world. i would think it would improve the mexican economy and help solve the illegal immigration problem
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Post by son of corb on Jul 18, 2008 19:39:08 GMT -6
Mexico is one of our top 3 suppliers already.
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Post by hunterbunter on Jul 19, 2008 1:40:13 GMT -6
whats going on with the Alaska drilling, we need to speeed that up
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Post by wp2003 on Jul 19, 2008 2:21:24 GMT -6
i agree, i mean do we really need caribou? j/k ;D
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Post by E-E PoWeR HoUsE on Jul 19, 2008 20:25:45 GMT -6
::: F A R T S :::
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Post by WARRIOR55 on Jul 19, 2008 22:30:16 GMT -6
Oil is being controlled boy's. They already got the taste of the billions of dollars that they are putting in thier pockets and they like it! Nuff Said.
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Post by wp2003 on Jul 19, 2008 22:45:13 GMT -6
yeah oil is........but wind, water, and solar are not......
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. it's good to hear that we're actually doing something about getting the wind farms connect to the grid. you put up 2 or 3 big wind farms and you could power the whole damn state....it just doesn't make sense to me how we can't see that it's better to use the wind and water......as far as nuclear, the only thing i'm worried about is the waste...how do the french deal with the waste from their nuclear plants? 
