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Post by sweetninjas on Jul 23, 2008 8:15:13 GMT -6
Stinger Splash E-E wins LSU 7-on-7 national tournament July 22, 2008 - 11:57AM By JOHN CANNON/Mid-Valley Town Crier EDCOUCH - The Edcouch-Elsa 7-on-7 football team saved the best for last. After being eliminated by Stephenville 25-21 in the first round of championship bracket in the 7-on-7 state tournament in College Station two weeks ago and falling to Mission Veterans in the semi-finals of the 7-on-7 Super Bowl last Wednesday, the Jackets won the LSU 7-on-7 football national tournament championship by defeating Scotlandville 44-27 Saturday. "Our kids wanted some revenge after losing to Mission Veterans last week and got it," said Edcouch-Elsa head coach Joe Solis. "We didn't expect this tournament to be as big as it turned out to be. Honestly, we thought it was a regular 7-on-7 tournament." "But, once we saw the competition we were going against, we knew we were going to have our hands full. The kids on the other teams were big and most of them are of African-American decent. However, we surprised them and took it all." Over 64 teams competed in the tournament held at the LSU campus in Baton Rouge and Edcouch-Elsa 7-on-7 coach Brandon Solis said that the teams they faced were quite a challenge for his squad. "We played Natchez, a team from Mississippi in the first round and they were very tough," said Solis. "They had a lot of speed and talent. But, we went into the game very disciplined and stuck to the game plan and were able to beat them 28-23." "Then, we faced Redemptorist from Louisiana and they were a 3-time consecutive state champion in class 3A. They tried to slow the game down, but our defense came up big and made some big plays. Also, Redemptorist made some mistakes that we were able to capitalize on. They drove the ball into the red zone twice and we stopped them. Our offense did their job and we were able to beat them 18-13." Before the game against Redemptorist, Joe Solis said that they were talking a little trash to his team. "The players from Redemptorist were pointing to our kids after we beat Natchez and were saying that they do whatever they want, whenever they want to their opponents," said Solis. "That ticked off some of our kids and they were determined to not let them get into their heads and would not back down. That provided a big spark for us and was a big reason why we beat them." Edcouch-Elsa defeated Sulphur, Louisiana 35-22 and Wash-Mar, Miss., 30-0 and advanced to the championship game to face Scotlandville, La. "Our guys were tired after playing in the hot sun all day. But, we told them that this was the last game of the day and that we have the potential to win the whole thing," said Joe Solis. "Scotlandville had won a few state titles themselves and were one of the best teams from Louisiana and their athletes are heavily recruited." Solis also talks about the championship game and how his team fought back from an early deficit. "They ended up scoring on us on the very first play. However, our quarterback Erik Nino threw a touchdown pass on our first possession and we shut the other team up real quick. From there, we started clicking and ended up beating them 44-27." "After the game, the LSU coaches came up and wanted some information on Nino and our tight end Arti Tanguma. The offensive coordinator asked me about them and was very impressed in what he saw." Solis said the coaches from LSU were also impressed with their heritage. "The most impressive thing they told me was that these boys were Hispanic and did so well playing football. Most people think that Hispanics are only good at soccer or baseball. However, these two guys really turned some heads up there and gave LSU something to look about." "I am extremely proud of the kids and the way they bounced back after that devastating loss last week. Also, we proved that the Valley can go up out of the state and compete with the big boys. Most teams that go to the playoffs lose because of the travel, are outmanned, or are afraid of the size and color of the other teams they face from up north." www.midvalleytowncrier.com/sports/big_1517___article.html/tournament_solis.htmlSo I guess Solis sees people in color, I see people for people and it really doesnt matter what color a person is or their desecent. How pathetic... |
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Post by jacket4life on Jul 23, 2008 8:36:55 GMT -6
Stinger Splash E-E wins LSU 7-on-7 national tournament July 22, 2008 - 11:57AM By JOHN CANNON/Mid-Valley Town Crier EDCOUCH - The Edcouch-Elsa 7-on-7 football team saved the best for last. After being eliminated by Stephenville 25-21 in the first round of championship bracket in the 7-on-7 state tournament in College Station two weeks ago and falling to Mission Veterans in the semi-finals of the 7-on-7 Super Bowl last Wednesday, the Jackets won the LSU 7-on-7 football national tournament championship by defeating Scotlandville 44-27 Saturday. "Our kids wanted some revenge after losing to Mission Veterans last week and got it," said Edcouch-Elsa head coach Joe Solis. "We didn't expect this tournament to be as big as it turned out to be. Honestly, we thought it was a regular 7-on-7 tournament." "But, once we saw the competition we were going against, we knew we were going to have our hands full. The kids on the other teams were big and most of them are of African-American decent. However, we surprised them and took it all." Over 64 teams competed in the tournament held at the LSU campus in Baton Rouge and Edcouch-Elsa 7-on-7 coach Brandon Solis said that the teams they faced were quite a challenge for his squad. "We played Natchez, a team from Mississippi in the first round and they were very tough," said Solis. "They had a lot of speed and talent. But, we went into the game very disciplined and stuck to the game plan and were able to beat them 28-23." "Then, we faced Redemptorist from Louisiana and they were a 3-time consecutive state champion in class 3A. They tried to slow the game down, but our defense came up big and made some big plays. Also, Redemptorist made some mistakes that we were able to capitalize on. They drove the ball into the red zone twice and we stopped them. Our offense did their job and we were able to beat them 18-13." Before the game against Redemptorist, Joe Solis said that they were talking a little trash to his team. "The players from Redemptorist were pointing to our kids after we beat Natchez and were saying that they do whatever they want, whenever they want to their opponents," said Solis. "That ticked off some of our kids and they were determined to not let them get into their heads and would not back down. That provided a big spark for us and was a big reason why we beat them." Edcouch-Elsa defeated Sulphur, Louisiana 35-22 and Wash-Mar, Miss., 30-0 and advanced to the championship game to face Scotlandville, La. "Our guys were tired after playing in the hot sun all day. But, we told them that this was the last game of the day and that we have the potential to win the whole thing," said Joe Solis. "Scotlandville had won a few state titles themselves and were one of the best teams from Louisiana and their athletes are heavily recruited." Solis also talks about the championship game and how his team fought back from an early deficit. "They ended up scoring on us on the very first play. However, our quarterback Erik Nino threw a touchdown pass on our first possession and we shut the other team up real quick. From there, we started clicking and ended up beating them 44-27." "After the game, the LSU coaches came up and wanted some information on Nino and our tight end Arti Tanguma. The offensive coordinator asked me about them and was very impressed in what he saw." Solis said the coaches from LSU were also impressed with their heritage. "The most impressive thing they told me was that these boys were Hispanic and did so well playing football. Most people think that Hispanics are only good at soccer or baseball. However, these two guys really turned some heads up there and gave LSU something to look about." "I am extremely proud of the kids and the way they bounced back after that devastating loss last week. Also, we proved that the Valley can go up out of the state and compete with the big boys. Most teams that go to the playoffs lose because of the travel, are outmanned, or are afraid of the size and color of the other teams they face from up north." www.midvalleytowncrier.com/sports/big_1517___article.html/tournament_solis.htmlSo I guess Solis sees people in color, I see people for people and it really doesnt matter what color a person is or their desecent. How pathetic... I see what you mean from a person side of it but come on man. Let's be real about the difference in athleticism between Hispanic's and African American's. You along with everybody else knows it's true so to say it doesn't matter would be lying to yourself. |
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Post by elprofe on Jul 23, 2008 8:40:51 GMT -6
+1. Sad to say, but you are right. Funny thing is, we get "bent out of shape" when people from up north question our kid's athleticism due to their cultural background, but we in a way do the same thing...well at least subconsciously.
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Post by sweetninjas on Jul 23, 2008 9:00:36 GMT -6
So I guess Solis sees people in color, I see people for people and it really doesnt matter what color a person is or their desecent. How pathetic... I see what you mean from a person side of it but come on man. Let's be real about the difference in athleticism between Hispanic's and African American's. You along with everybody else knows it's true so to say it doesn't matter would be lying to yourself. I hear you, but I just dont think that way. Anyone is capable of anything, hispanic's, African's, anglos or any other race. |
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Post by lmka on Jul 23, 2008 9:03:53 GMT -6
+1. Sad to say, but you are right. Funny thing is, we get "bent out of shape" when people from up north question our kid's athleticism due to their cultural background, but we in a way, do the same thing...well at least subconsciously. Your right we do the same thing. When we see that they are black we automatically think that they can jump. run and hit alot better then we do. |
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Post by hunterbunter on Jul 23, 2008 14:32:31 GMT -6
Very good article. I was told about the remarks that they were told. They were telling them that the only things Mexicans can catch were tortillas. lol |
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Post by OlympFan on Jul 23, 2008 14:53:21 GMT -6
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Post by Ol' Buzzard on Jul 23, 2008 15:01:02 GMT -6
So I guess Solis sees people in color, I see people for people and it really doesnt matter what color a person is or their desecent. How pathetic... So how would you say what he said in a way that wasn't "pathetic?" |
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Post by hunterbunter on Jul 23, 2008 15:15:52 GMT -6
solis just keepin it real that's all. but in all honesty, he needs to set an example for the kids in being the head coach. so he shouldn't have commented on the other kids color of skin.
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Post by eyeofthetiger on Jul 23, 2008 16:23:27 GMT -6
solis just keepin it real that's all. but in all honesty, he needs to set an example for the kids in being the head coach. so he shouldn't have commented on the other kids color of skin. While i understand that he was trying to get the fact that they are athletic across and that EE had beat some very good teams to use african american is just as bad as them saying we are hispanic..... he should have just stated they were going against some incredible athletes and leave it at that.... he perpetuated the same things that rile us up about about up north teams |
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Post by TarpnForce73 on Jul 23, 2008 17:43:24 GMT -6
solis just keepin it real that's all. but in all honesty, he needs to set an example for the kids in being the head coach. so he shouldn't have commented on the other kids color of skin. While i understand that he was trying to get the fact that they are athletic across and that EE had beat some very good teams to use african american is just as bad as them saying we are hispanic..... he should have just stated they were going against some incredible athletes and leave it at that.... he perpetuated the same things that rile us up about about up north teams This is all a very good and educational experience to both sides of the fence. On the field people can get away in saying alot in slurs etc. , but in the media you have to have more thought of what you are saying. Reminders of the meida up north on days gone by when Donna went to state. I am not questioning or putting down anyone here, but the educational process of what happens when one side is taunting you stereotypically as to where you belong as a football player and then you prove them wrong is the biggest education to those who saw you in a different light. That believe you me spoke volumes to all on that tournament. Not surprised of the LSU people who were interested in the players because of what they had just witnessed. And why it is important to compete outside of what we are used to. Not just do you learn first hand in your face how others see you, but your actions will start an educational process that starts breaking those barriers of how others see/saw you. And more important how we see ourselves as well. And it starts with each and every one of us. And even though the differences were obvious there is the same type of psychological swagger put down exchanged between the teams up there. On a good note have not heard if the officiating was biased. I do feel that the comments on the paper were more of a frustration release of how players up there saw EE or Valley players in football. The biggest statement was made on the field in action, and stereotype barriers were shattered before their eyes. This is very good, it speaks louder than words. |
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Post by eagleprophet on Jul 23, 2008 18:06:07 GMT -6
Well most can tell you for sure that recruiting stops in the SA/CC area and the Valley is always overlooked no matter how good the players are. For some reason that might have to do with our playoff success as a whole, we need to do something to highlight our guys as much as possible so that they get the exposure needed to get more of our guys into D1 schools.
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Post by Ol' Buzzard on Jul 23, 2008 19:07:59 GMT -6
Let me see if I can clearly convey my thoughts:
If you were making reference to the RGV superbowl... you could say there were some really good teams particpating in it. However, when making reference to the LSU tourney (which is supposedly at a higher level) saying "there were some really good teams that particpated in it" just doesn't carry the same weight. What he should have said was that there were some caliber division 1 atheletes participating (to explain the heighted level of play) and not mention that they were black.
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Post by elprofe on Jul 23, 2008 20:39:20 GMT -6
Let me see if I can clearly convey my thoughts: If you were making reference to the RGV superbowl... you could say there were some really good teams particpating in it. However, when making reference to the LSU tourney (which is supposedly at a higher level) saying "there were some really good teams that particpated in it" just doesn't carry the same weight. What he should have said was that there were some caliber division 1 atheletes participating (to explain the heighted level of play) and not mention that they were black. +1 |
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Post by elprofe on Jul 23, 2008 20:42:12 GMT -6
Just wondering, how much do you all think EE's success on 7-7 will carry over onto the regular season of play? I for one feel that it is going to do wonders!
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Post by jacket4life on Jul 23, 2008 21:09:54 GMT -6
I strongly believe that it should and will help the Jackets come playoff time. There are some question marks at running back and of course their achilles heel from last year which is their secondary but nonetheless, they should go deep into the playoffs this year. And just for the heck of it I will go out and say that they will go in to Calallen in week 0 with all the confidence in the world and come out victorious 34-31.
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Post by hunterbunter on Jul 23, 2008 21:39:11 GMT -6
Let me see if I can clearly convey my thoughts: If you were making reference to the RGV superbowl... you could say there were some really good teams particpating in it. However, when making reference to the LSU tourney (which is supposedly at a higher level) saying "there were some really good teams that particpated in it" just doesn't carry the same weight. What he should have said was that there were some caliber division 1 atheletes participating (to explain the heighted level of play) and not mention that they were black. +1 +2 |
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Post by TarpnForce73 on Jul 23, 2008 23:04:31 GMT -6
Let me see if I can clearly convey my thoughts: If you were making reference to the RGV superbowl... you could say there were some really good teams particpating in it. However, when making reference to the LSU tourney (which is supposedly at a higher level) saying "there were some really good teams that particpated in it" just doesn't carry the same weight. What he should have said was that there were some caliber division 1 atheletes participating (to explain the heighted level of play) and not mention that they were black. Very good point. That also implies that you cannot undermine the caliber of competition in the 7on 7 Super Bowl in the Valley. |
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Post by xlobo on Jul 23, 2008 23:24:30 GMT -6
I strongly believe that it should and will help the Jackets come playoff time. There are some question marks at running back and of course their achilles heel from last year which is their secondary but nonetheless, they should go deep into the playoffs this year. And just for the heck of it I will go out and say that they will go in to Calallen in week 0 with all the confidence in the world and come out victorious 34-31. Huge confindence booster come playoff time right there. This might get them over that hump.... |
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Post by Ol' Buzzard on Jul 24, 2008 3:17:50 GMT -6
I strongly believe that it should and will help the Jackets come playoff time. There are some question marks at running back and of course their achilles heel from last year which is their secondary but nonetheless, they should go deep into the playoffs this year. And just for the heck of it I will go out and say that they will go in to Calallen in week 0 with all the confidence in the world and come out victorious 34-31. Huge confindence booster come playoff time right there. This might get them over that hump.... I have a feeling EE is going to sneak out of Cal w/ a victory. Wish it were in the playoffs and not in the regular season. |
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