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Post by son of corb on Jun 17, 2008 19:22:49 GMT -6
Just dawned on me. I could have made that into a dozen posts or so.
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Post by Midvalleyftball79 on Jun 17, 2008 19:23:40 GMT -6
I really want to know why you would think sb would come in 2nd or even "possibly" in at #1 corby? Serious question. They have alot of returning talent?? Like who .. They lose their qb and main rb (abel aguirre) not too mention they have always been inconsistent on offense especially the last 2 years, thats one of sbs biggest problems. Defense is alright but when they have gone up against SOLID offenses like wes or lf they have failed miserably, we know that. I want to know why sb would even be considered a top 2 team, i think they will be better then the b'ville schools but not wes or lf. I kind of hinted at it in my original post and Redbird (a little closer to them than we are over here) agreed for the same reasons (I think). Last year, they were in a tough situation with the head coach and his broken leg (on his hip replacement side) happening in August during a practice. Major distraction for the team. They still managed 5-2 district record. They had more distractions in the off season and Bassett was moved out. In comes Coach Gracia. He's a former assistant over here and I think most will speak highly of him. In one of the first announcements after that, they picked one of their receivers to be QB. I've seen that move be extremely successful in the past. Then there's the Weslaco/SB game, the one with the record. I think they are going to be a little inspired after that game. So, in answer to someone else's question, it has less to do with Weslaco than my opinions of San Benito. You still couldn't answer my question, you said sb had alot of returning talent .. LIKE WHO?? You dont' know do you. So in otherwards you like sbs chances because they have coach gracia a former assistant from lf .. lol. And i don't buy that distraction stuff. Don't think you really convinced anyone with that post corby. Still think sb will lose to the same teams as last season. Except might be closer games. Think the most inspired team out there this season will be weslaco, our guys haven't stopped hearing how they will amount to nothing and are expected to do nothing without shak. They will be out there in full force with something to prove and i think its already started with how well they have been playing at 7on7 so far this summer. They are pretty motivated. But to keep everyone happy i'll just say once again wes, lf and sb will battle for the first 3 spots, and more then likely lopez and pace will battle for fourth. I guess we'll see .. |
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Post by son of corb on Jun 17, 2008 19:43:35 GMT -6
It's an opinion. If you aren't convinced, there's a reason. It isn't your opinion. I'm cool with that. It's not a point I care to argue. I made a statement, I was questioned on it and I offered what I based my opinion on. Like I said, it isn't a reflection of my opinion of Weslaco, it's my opinion of San Benito. I try not to comment too much about Weslaco, believe it or not.
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Post by son of corb on Jun 17, 2008 20:14:26 GMT -6
One other thing. Go back a year. The Falcons weren't supposed to be anything without the Springers. Yeah, it was a rough start but, it worked out as well as anyone else's season down here. We've been through the ringer when we've lost people as well. So have many other teams.
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Post by son of corb on Jun 17, 2008 20:17:03 GMT -6
Cool. Just saw your Dave Campbell's post. Wonder what he knows. Do I win?  |
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Post by Midvalleyftball79 on Jun 17, 2008 20:37:26 GMT -6
Yeah its all good, thats your opinion and yep go back to your previous post about the springers and thats about the same position wes will be in this coming season. Not many ppl expect much from them with the loss of shak, but thats what going to motivate them and mix in some good talent we have and well we'll see how it goes.
lol but nah you don't win, because you still don't really know what your saying. And you can't answer my question about what sb has coming back to try to convince anyone why you think they would end up so high .. I'm pretty sure the only reason dave is putting sb in the 2nd spot is because of the few guys they have coming back on defense that were all staters or whatever but like xlobo mentioned with the help of their padded stats. But like i have already stated that when they have gone up against solid offenses in the district like wes or lf they have failed miserably, thats what we do know. And thats not just my opinion, thats a fact. But lil does dave know right.
Theres only so much you can take from these preseason polls especially from those guys up there and those mags, i'd pay more attention to our mags down here when they come out because they know valley football and they know our guys down here. Mainly because we fill them in and they read about everything we say in these forums, lol.
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Post by son of corb on Jun 17, 2008 20:57:10 GMT -6
I won't disagree with you. I agree with the motivation part. SB/LF/Wes all have different reasons for motivation. FYI. Polls are opinions.
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Post by Midvalleyftball79 on Jun 17, 2008 21:02:51 GMT -6
Yep thats true ..
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Post by Midvalleyftball79 on Jun 17, 2008 21:08:25 GMT -6
I wonder how xlobo is going to feel about his lobos getting picked to finish 7th in the district "according to dave campbell".  |
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Post by lobo_44 on Jun 17, 2008 23:04:02 GMT -6
according to who? ;D
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Post by wp2003 on Jun 17, 2008 23:10:34 GMT -6
you have to admit corby that having the two big boys on the ends help you guys keep hope alive. i saw the harlingen/lf game and you guys tried to pass way too much and it cost them the game. as soon as you put the game in the hands of your line, you started winning. those guys are once every 10 year linemen, and you had 2 of them on the same team in the same grade. this year will be the true test. the qb springer was very very GOOD, but having those 2 linemen and being coached how to use them made him GREAT. not having them this year is going to make things a little tougher.
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Post by son of corb on Jun 17, 2008 23:18:07 GMT -6
That's kind of the weird thing about Brownsville schools now. It was just a few years ago when Rivera was kicking the crap out of most everyone. I don't know what their play off record was but I I'm pretty sure there is a 10 year period when Chavez was there that they had the best winning percentage of most anyone. Tony V was in the district and Hanna (?) also. I want to say back when the Harlingen schools were in this district, it dominated the Valley. They hired a bunch of coaches this year so B-Town could be ready to make a difference.
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Post by xlobo on Jun 17, 2008 23:31:19 GMT -6
I wonder how xlobo is going to feel about his lobos getting picked to finish 7th in the district "according to dave campbell". We've been picked like that before. It don't matter. Just shows we have nothing to lose so why not... |
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Post by son of corb on Jun 17, 2008 23:33:29 GMT -6
you have to admit corby that having the two big boys on the ends help you guys keep hope alive. i saw the harlingen/lf game and you guys tried to pass way too much and it cost them the game. as soon as you put the game in the hands of your line, you started winning. those guys are once every 10 year linemen, and you had 2 of them on the same team in the same grade. this year will be the true test. the qb springer was very very GOOD, but having those 2 linemen and being coached how to use them made him GREAT. not having them this year is going to make things a little tougher. Are we going to have to go through this again? That's the same as saying a great running back makes an offense great. Not even sure which game you are referring to. |
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Post by son of corb on Jun 17, 2008 23:40:17 GMT -6
You can make some seriously stupid arguments along that same line. Donna and LF had the best defenses because they were able to limit rushing yards to less than 200 yards. In the LF game, a virtual unknown junior gained more yards.
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Post by GO-LF on Jun 18, 2008 0:58:22 GMT -6
you have to admit corby that having the two big boys on the ends help you guys keep hope alive. i saw the harlingen/lf game and you guys tried to pass way too much and it cost them the game. as soon as you put the game in the hands of your line, you started winning. those guys are once every 10 year linemen, and you had 2 of them on the same team in the same grade. this year will be the true test. the qb springer was very very GOOD, but having those 2 linemen and being coached how to use them made him GREAT. not having them this year is going to make things a little tougher. Well, on that same argument, couldn't you say that shak was a back that comes along only once every 40 years? I mean sure, Benavides and Atkinson were huge parts of our team last year, but they werent the entire team. And while LF is losing those guys, Ford knows how to win, and he will adjust the team accordingly, and if it means sacrificing a non-district game, so be it, I'd rather lose one of those then a playoff game |
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Post by wp2003 on Jun 18, 2008 1:04:12 GMT -6
are you guys seriously comparing a great back to a great pair of linemen? that comparison is not even close. i can only think of one time where a great back has been great all on his own, and that back was barry sanders. a great pair of linemen can make a back look great very easily, but it doesn't work the same the other way around. i GAURANTEE that your team will suffer MORE,with the absence of the 2 linemen, than weslaco will with the absence of shak.
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Post by wp2003 on Jun 18, 2008 1:04:32 GMT -6
oh, and i was talking about the first harlingen/lf game.
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Post by teamfalcon on Jun 18, 2008 8:59:33 GMT -6
Let's take a look AGAIN, who's returning for Los Fresnos
Total Returning Starters
Offense: 5
Defense: 7
Coach of the Year
Scott Ford, Los Fresnos
QB Danny Silva, jr., Los Fresnos-Offensive Newcomer of the Year (could also play LB since he started 13 games at LB as a SO)
QB Marc Carmona - 994 yards 10 TD in 4 GAMES!?!?
RB — Danny Mendez, jr., Los Fresnos* 2024 yards rushing (ok, so EVEN without Benavides and Atkinson, let's say he get's half of his yards. Not bad at all.
OL -Juan Buenrostro Jr. (Hon Mention)
SPLIT END — Charlie Rivas (5'10 185), jr., Los Fresnos (2ND TEAM ALL DISTRICT) 695 Rec yards 9 TD's (Should go over 1000 all purpose yards this year)
SPLIT END-Nate Duncan (5'10 165)(Hon Mention)
DB/RB-Stephan Wilson (SO)
LINE BACKER- Edgar Martinez (6'0 185), jr., Los Fresnos Defensive Player of the Year 5A Football.com Super Player
DEFENSIVE LINE —Matt Mendez (6'4 200), jr., Los Fresnos (1ST TEAM ALL DISTRICT)
INSIDE LINEBACKER —Anthony Cadengo (5'7 160), jr., Los Fresnos (1ST TEAM ALL DISTRICT)
CORNERBACK —Mark Esquivel, jr., Los Fresnos (1ST TEAM ALL DISTRICT)
FREE SAFETY —Luis Charles, jr., Los Fresnos (1ST TEAM ALL DISTRICT)
FREE SAFETY-Ivan Gonzalez So. (Hon Mention)
These are OTHER returning letterman.
Aaron Rangel (SO QB that won the game in OT, fastest player on the team)
OL - 6'2 265 played behind Atkinson
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Post by RPM on Jun 18, 2008 9:05:31 GMT -6
you have to admit corby that having the two big boys on the ends help you guys keep hope alive. i saw the harlingen/lf game and you guys tried to pass way too much and it cost them the game. as soon as you put the game in the hands of your line, you started winning. those guys are once every 10 year linemen, and you had 2 of them on the same team in the same grade. this year will be the true test. the qb springer was very very GOOD, but having those 2 linemen and being coached how to use them made him GREAT. not having them this year is going to make things a little tougher. Well, on that same argument, couldn't you say that shak was a back that comes along only once every 40 years? I mean sure, Benavides and Atkinson were huge parts of our team last year, but they werent the entire team. And while LF is losing those guys, Ford knows how to win, and he will adjust the team accordingly, and if it means sacrificing a non-district game, so be it, I'd rather lose one of those then a playoff game no..... that only works in weslaco..... what exactly does weslaco have coming back????that makes them such a threat..... |
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